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We are opening this roundtable on Breeding because we want to make significant changes in the next major update (2.47) and we would like to explain our intentions and get your feedback. Our main objectives: Limit the excessive generation of Mounts (mainly Dragoturkeys) to guarantee them a higher value. Increase the global destruction of resources and boost the economy of Breeding Items. Strengthen the mechanics of decreasing profitability: the more players (at the scale of a server) raise Mounts, the higher the consumption of Breeding Items must increase and therefore limit the profitability of raising additional Mounts (setting up a natural and dynamic balance). Allow players to be able to do Breeding without needing active breeding (use of Emotes), to get rid of this too repetitive and too poor mechanic. Limit the almost exponential proliferation of Dragoturkey abilities and allow the natural introduction of the Chameleon trait for Dragoturkeys. The changes we are considering: Making Paddocks account based The Paddock would be managed at the scale of the account and no longer by character (just like the Bank). We wish to discourage the multiplication of characters to artificially increase the size of the Paddocks. The size of the Paddocks would not be increased, we do not wish to encourage farms more massive than those currently in place (which contribute to a production of mounts that we consider excessive). Wear and choice of Breeding Items in public Paddocks Public Paddocks are necessary to ensure easy access to the breeding functionality of the majority of players, but the absence of wear and tear on Breeding Items allows some players to multiply the number of mounts raised in public Paddocks by multiplying the number of characters used for breeding. We would like to remove the default Breeding Items in public Paddocks, and let the players use their own Breeding Items (instantiated). Through this modification, we wish to reintroduce a simple and natural mechanism, already present in private Paddocks: raising more mounts will increase the wear of the Breeding Items, accelerate their destruction, require more production of them and thus increase their price. This mechanism makes it possible to regulate the disproportionate production of mounts while actively participating in the destruction of game resources. Size and bonus of public Paddocks Public Paddocks would have 10 places in Bonta and Brakmar and 5 places in Astrub. Bonuses earned in public Paddocks would be reduced by 20% (non-final value) compared to those earned in private Paddocks. Number of public Paddocks There would be 1 Paddock in Bonta, Brakmar and Astrub. Suppression of active Breeding and improvement of passive Breeding Currently it is possible to earn significant bonuses for the mounts through active breeding (use of Emotes, adding and removing the mounts in the Paddock). This operation does not seem satisfactory because it encourages players to repeat these very basic actions in a loop. This way of playing seems very boring and does not correspond to what we want to value in the game, so we do not want to encourage it. We would like to remove active breeding (bonus gains when a mount activates a Breeding Item after a player's action) and increase the efficiency of passive breeding so that it offers the same efficiency. Our goal is to allow you to be as effective in passive breeding as in active breeding, but without having to follow the same actions in a loop. Of course, Emotes would always allow to position the mounts in the Paddocks. Transmission of traits for Dragoturkeys At present the transmission of traits is almost exponential (it becomes easier with time to transmit select traits to other Dragoturkeys). This operation does not seem satisfactory to us because it makes it too easy to breed optimum Dragoturkeys, which makes it possible to flood the Dragoturkey market with optimized mounts. We would like to reduce the probability of transmission of Dragoturkey traits to a 1 in 15 chance. Reduction of Dragoturkey generation The Dragoturkeys currently have 20 reproductions, we would like to reduce this value to limit Dragoturkey breeding. We envisage several possibilities: limit the number of reproductions to 10 or allow 5 basic reproductions + 1 reproduction every 20 levels (which would give a certain control to the player by allowing them to increase the number of reproductions for certain mounts). Natural reintroduction of the Chameleon trait for Dragoturkeys We would like the Chameleon trait to appear (and be transmitted) naturally on Dragoturkeys. Modification of Breeding Item recipes We want to review all the recipes for Breeding Items to reduce the number of ingredients in common between the recipes. We want Dungeon Keeper Essences to be important and limiting factors in these recipes and not the common ingredients. We would also like to add missing Breeding Items (those that correspond to Dungeon Keeper Essences that have not been used yet). Balancing of the mount bonuses and new species We would like to review the Dragoturkey bonuses so that those of the first generations are more competitive with those of the last generations. We also want to make sure that each of the three Dragoturkey species has a significant and specific bonus (as with the Seemyool MP bonus for example). A third kind of mount is in preparation, it should fill some gaps while creating a new breeding market. Conclusion We are aware that these changes mainly concern restrictions on breeding and that they will reduce the production of mounts. Our goal is to find a healthy breeding system with fewer mounts generated. We want the individual price of mounts to increase and we need to make sure that the breeding market is not as saturated as it is now. We ask you to address these changes in their entirety and not individually.
I'll use male dragoturkeys as example. If my balance bar is at +(750), and I put the male dragoturkey into love area... 1 - My balance bar will reduce in 10 for every interaction that counts (+Love) or for every amount of love earned (e.g. +30 Love) ? 2 - What kind of items will reduce my balance? Drinking, Lighters, Dragobutt...? 3 - If the serenity change items are included at 2nd question. I'll gain less/more balance than a female dragoturkey? 4 - How the generation of dragoturkey influences the amount of status gain. For example. I breed first generation dragoturkeys (Almond), I earn +150 every interaction with a serenity balance item. But with my tenth generation I only earn 30 by interaction. Can someone explain this? 5 - Lets suppose my stamina won't affect my gain from the items. (Remember male as example) If I gain +100 love for every interaction and my total love bar is at 2500. I need my balance bar to be at least +500 to get to7500 love points? 10 point loss for every interaction, I'll need 50 interactions. Right(?)
Shre posted a topic in [ROSAL] Pets and MountsDue to a tragic boating incident it seems I've lost all my male golden and emerald turks in shipping. If you're interested PM me with what you're looking for. No junk trees please my birds are pure or half/half 10 gen stripes.
Gaspar posted a topic in The InformatoryI would just like to hear everyone's opinion about the best options for the new breeding items. I've recently gotten back to breeding and have been sort of constantly farming mats for breeding items. The reason... the new breeding items get depleted very quickly. What's everyone using for each ability training? This is what I'm currently crafting for each (duration / efficiency) : Love : Black Rat Dragobutt (5000 / 120) or alternatively Minotot Dragobutt (5000 / 150) though more expensive mats. Stamina : Soft Oak Lightning Throwers (5000 / 120) seem reliable and Soft Oak mats seem accessible to obtain. Slapping : Royal Pingwin (3000 / 70)... these are the worst of all breeding items. The duration is really low on high efficiency slappers, so I'm being forced ot lower efficiency to allow for items that last a bit longer. Patting : Going with Fuji Snowfoux Patter (3600 / 90) which is still alright efficiency and average durability. No-where near the old patters but seems like an ok option? There might be cheaper options though? Maturity:: Using Minotot Drinking Trough (9000 / 90) which is equivalent to old high-end drinking troughs. This really is the breeding item I use the less so I prefer to have a long durability one which will last me for quite a while. CB is an equivalent option but Minotot seems cheaper to make. Merkator is way to expensive for the extra benefits. Energy : My first attempt was with Tengu Snowfoux Mangers (18000 / 90) which was alright. But then I switched over to Pandora Master Mangers (5000 / 120) which have considerably less durability but mats seem cheaper and alot faster running pandora master dungeon than tengu dungeon for mats, if necessary. What about you? I'm particularly interested in hearing what other people are using for slapping / slapping nowadays. I realize lots of breeders are probably still living with old items (I actually still have some old slappers and patters but reaching their end-of-life). Durability 1000 slappers and patters just look like such a waste... I really hate how much time I've been spending farming beach monsters recently thanks to these new breeding items lol [Edit] Oops wrong Forum, should have placed this under "Poultry Paddock". If a mod can move it for me, I'd appreciate :)