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Doctor T

Official "What team should I use" Thread

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Figured this would be a good idea, alongside the "What Gear" thread, since there are a lot of questions about what teams and characters/builds to use.

Here's a basic template to use:

What I Have

Acct1:

Acct2:

Acct3:

(and so on)

What I Want

Number of New Accts:

Goal:

Leaning Toward:

Extra Comments.

If you single-account, you can just list the one account you have, with the character(s) on it that you use, and put zero in the "Number of New Accts" field.

For each account you currently have, list the level, class and build of each character at least, and some other details as well if you want. If you have more than one useful character on that account, list all of them so people can know what your options are.

For shits and giggles, and to give a sample of the template:

What I Have

Acct1: 16x Int Cra

Acct2: 15x Str Iop

Acct3: 11x Cha Panda

Acct4: 11x Agi Sac

Acct5: 7x Wis/Cha Enu (in training)

What I Want

Number of New Accts: 3

Goal: A full team that will one day be able to do all Frigost dungeons effectively

Leaning Toward: Int Eni, Wis/Cha/Str Cra, Str Panda

As I said, I'm wanting to work toward a team that will be able to farm all the Frigost dungeons in an effective manner once they are all epic. I already kind of have a plan in motion, but figured I'd get some input while I test out the template.

If someone has an idea for a better/improved template, feel free to post it.

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Oh doctor, trying to get a sticky are we? This is cool but wouldn't it be easier to do "What Next Character Should I Use?" Most people only ask for 1 more in addition to their current setup. Anywho, just because I'm a Doctor T fan!:

What I Have:

Acct1: Wis/Cha/Int Cra - 165

Acct2: Str/Int Sadida - 14X

Acct3: Wis/Cha Enu - 13X

Acct4: Agi/Int Iop - 12X

Acct5: Wis Xelor - 6X (I'm not sure str or agi yet, I'm thinkin str)

What I Want:

Number of New Accts: 1

Goal: Soloing Soft Oak (aka healing that 500+ damage on 3 chars he does when he inevitably rolls +63 range) and other higher level dungeons without being an 8 man team.

Leaning Toward: Int Eniripsa but open to more exotic healers

Extra Comments: I love exotic builds (or at least things not so common, aka why I have wis/cha cra not agi or int cra, why I have str/int sadi, not pure str... etc etc.). But heal-wise things like Hammer Ican and Boogie Wand can be unreliable at times.

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it seems the two requesters above would both benefit from a pure healbot eni. I know it's not exotic or fun, but hell if it's a full compliment of team u want, then there's nothing in comparison to a healbot eni. It will just make the whole hunting experience so much less frustrating, maybe one day they will make a class comparable to eni in raw healing power, but for now I don't think any multiaccount player can live without one doing high lvl dungs.

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Dont call it a healbot ... We can do sooo much more then just healing

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What I Have

Acct1: 16x Int Cra

Acct2: 15x Str Iop

Acct3: 11x Cha Panda

Acct4: 11x Agi Sac

Acct5: 7x Wis/Cha Enu (in training)

What I Want

Number of New Accts: 3

Goal: A full team that will one day be able to do all Frigost dungeons effectively

Leaning Toward: Int Eni, Wis/Cha/Str Cra, Str Panda

As I said, I'm wanting to work toward a team that will be able to farm all the Frigost dungeons in an effective manner once they are all epic. I already kind of have a plan in motion, but figured I'd get some input while I test out the template.

To do ALL frigost effectively, 2 pandas, 2 cras are kinda perfect. Seeing your team doesn't have a healer, hence an Int Eni is perfect. My only thoughts, once all your chars are at Epic level.

I would do Omni Sac (with sets to do str, agi with whatever hybrid)

2 cras to do str/int

Enu to go Str/Cha

Pandas should have earth, air vuln leveled, stain, pandinuiras, and its attack spells.

Also, you should make init related equip and if you can do

Eni, Sac, Panda, Panda, Iop, Enu, Cras = Ouga farming as well. (making sure hitters get earth hitting weapons)

Other than that, this team at epic level can take down any bosses within 2 turns.

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Dont call it a healbot ... We can do sooo much more then just healing

Oh I know, what I mean by healbot is mainly... a super healer (although I doubt there're sets that offer enough +heals or something to outweigh the intelligence). But mainly just as something to constantly heal and worry about offense when there's nothing to be healed.

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Oh doctor, trying to get a sticky are we? This is cool but wouldn't it be easier to do "What Next Character Should I Use?" Most people only ask for 1 more in addition to their current setup.

Not trying to "get a sticky"... just figured there are tons of threads made for this when there could be a centralized location for that.

I changed the topic title to "What character/team should I use", since I'd like people to be able to use this when building a team or selecting team members as well.

To do ALL frigost effectively, 2 pandas, 2 cras are kinda perfect. Seeing your team doesn't have a healer, hence an Int Eni is perfect. My only thoughts, once all your chars are at Epic level.

I would do Omni Sac (with sets to do str, agi with whatever hybrid)

2 cras to do str/int

Enu to go Str/Cha

Pandas should have earth, air vuln leveled, stain, pandinuiras, and its attack spells.

Also, you should make init related equip and if you can do

Eni, Sac, Panda, Panda, Iop, Enu, Cras = Ouga farming as well. (making sure hitters get earth hitting weapons)

Other than that, this team at epic level can take down any bosses within 2 turns.

Hehe thanks Aza, I know I've talked to you about teams before on several occasions, I think my plan was influenced a lot by your advice already. ^_^

I would do Omni Sac (with sets to do str, agi with whatever hybrid)

2 cras to do str/int

Enu to go Str/Cha

Pandas should have earth, air vuln leveled, stain, pandinuiras, and its attack spells.

Also, you should make init related equip and if you can do

Eni, Sac, Panda, Panda, Iop, Enu, Cras = Ouga farming as well. (making sure hitters get earth hitting weapons)

Other than that, this team at epic level can take down any bosses within 2 turns.

That's really interesting, making everyone able to hit earth damage. I'm not sure what exactly I'll end up with at epic level (my mind tends to change frequently), but this is what I'm leaning toward at the moment:

Malkimar (Cra): Int/Omni - 10 AP diamonded Az'tech build

Timinator (Iop): Str/Omni - 10 AP Kolosso / Peccary build

Kralove (Panda): Cha/Int - 12 AP "tsunami" Pandawa... pure Sober build with all vulns maxed (final set uncertain)

Septos (Sacrier): Agi/? - unsure of final set... might try to go full Bearbarian for a versatile 10 AP / 6 MP

Geraldi (Enutrof): Cha/Wis - 10 AP 1/2 all "party" Enutrof... far more than a PP whore, though his PP is still far bigger than yours!

Hellbend (Eniripsa): Int/Cha - 10 AP base "badass" Eni - no sissy wand for this crazy motherfucker! (final set uncertain)

Camiel (Cra): Wis/Cha/Str? - unsure of final build or set, but I'm thinking rape specialist with primarily Cha from gear

Second Panda (undecided name): Str/? - unsure of final build or set, but she will have all the useful Drunk spells, possibly minor in Agi

This would make for a really versatile team that can hit really hard in any element on a whim. They would also completely blast through any easier fight with great speed. :)

it seems the two requesters above would both benefit from a pure healbot eni. I know it's not exotic or fun, but hell if it's a full compliment of team u want, then there's nothing in comparison to a healbot eni. It will just make the whole hunting experience so much less frustrating, maybe one day they will make a class comparable to eni in raw healing power, but for now I don't think any multiaccount player can live without one doing high lvl dungs.

My next character WILL be an Eni... but he will NOT be a healbot. :P

If I really have to have a healbot in a certain dungeon (which I kind of doubt), I have a number of friends that could join me to fill that spot.

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u can ask impaler on tips for a battle eni, since his is rank 9 and has decent heals.

edit: also its the only eni we go with for dungeons.

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u can ask impaler on tips for a battle eni, since his is rank 9 and has decent heals.

Oh... I have a plan. ;) (at least for lower levels hehe)

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booo low levels ;), well might work out with new sets :o, i hope u make a kick ass one tho ;D

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booo low levels ;), well might work out with new sets :o, i hope u make a kick ass one tho ;D

By lower levels, I mean < 160. I'm not talking about noob PvP... fuck that shit. :D

As a matter of fact... I couldn't give a rat's ass about 1v1 PvP in general, and I hate the Headhunter System with a burning passion!

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prisms!!! u can attack them with pku ;)

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prisms!!! u can attack them with pku :o

Hah, that nub needs all the help he can get! :D

But yeah, I intend on at least trying to get in on the group PvP scene more once I can get to a decent level. Problem is I'm always undergeared for my level, but we'll see how things go! I'm on a minecraft break at the moment because it's stolen my soul! ;)

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ok, so im starting a new server, and I am not willing to pay for more then 3 accounts, so each account will have 2 characters on it

account 1: int eni + agi cra

account 2: str/agi sram + ??

account 3: wis/chance enu + str panda

goal: to beable to do the dungeons I need to ( that can be run with 3 chars ), and being able to have almost any type of char needed when im grouping with other people for runs

Ive only made a few of these chars so far, still working on lvling them up.

dungeon idea's: ( i know i cant run all these dungeons with 3 chars, these are just the chars i would want to bring to them )

legendary crackler: agi cra or eni + str-agi sram + str panda

gourlo: eni + str/agi sram + str panda

tynril: int eni or agi cra + str/agi sram + wis/chance enu

kimbo: int eni + str/agi sram + str panda

kazi dungeon: int eni + str/agi sram + wis/chance enu

bherb: int eni + str/agi sram + str panda

those are the dungeons I'm mainly thinking of that are important for me to make sure I got atleast the main chars needed for the dungeon run and which of my chars would run it.

right now, im trying to find a new toon for my second account, so i need some advice, though I will never use anything on the second account besides my str/agi sram. I need to find a toon that can be useful in dungeons when im grouping with other people that dont need my sram.

not requirements, but things im looking at when deciding the toon:

-i got enough str/agi dmg dealers

-1 int dmg dealer, but is mainly support

-1 chance dealer, but is mainly support

-the char needs to be a strong dmg dealer, not a support class

-its only use will be when other people dont need my sram in the group, so it needs to be something that fits in groups when the sram wont.

-prefer not to be a class i already have on one of my accs

ideas ive been thinking of:

chance sac - tot dungeon is only reason i would use this toon

int feca - more support then damage dealing at low-mid lvls, but high lvls it becomes a decent dmg dealer with turq while still having nice support ( though a problem arises that i will only use this char if im FORCED to use over my sram )

thought i would use toons other then this, those are really the only type of chars ive never used over my time of dofus, so ofc they are the first to pop up

thanks in advance for some advice =)

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ok, so im starting a new server, and I am not willing to pay for more then 3 accounts, so each account will have 2 characters on it

account 1: int eni + agi cra

account 2: str/agi sram + ??

account 3: wis/chance enu + str panda

goal: to beable to do the dungeons I need to ( that can be run with 3 chars ), and being able to have almost any type of char needed when im grouping with other people for runs

Well, the whole flip flopping thing kind of seems off to me. Enu and Panda are both good members for dungeon runs, yet their on the same account making you pick between the 2? I'd want both... every time. Str panda is also a good damage build.

And what level range are you talking about these characters, cause a chance sac in tot room with only 3 chars? That doesn't sound good... unless the sac's just going to sit there and wait for tot to die since everyone else will be dead long before (in my experience). Otherwise he'll just become a tofu, and nobody likes those. Except Osas.

Anywho, I say if you want to keep your characters down, osa is always a good idea. Slower fighting, semi-annoying AI sometimes, but summons make the fight seem like your team is bigger than it really is. I'd say probably int osa, good damage, can heal so eni doesn't have to be so supportive, also can revive, which is helpful as with only 3 people if something f's up, you're... f'd >_> XD. Once it gets into SO pieces it can unsummon extra good with whip. So that could save your team some trouble, as it lacks AOE completely aside from when using the panda. And with no AOE, it just seems so wasteful to attack summons without also getting others.

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Well, the whole flip flopping thing kind of seems off to me. Enu and Panda are both good members for dungeon runs, yet their on the same account making you pick between the 2? I'd want both... every time. Str panda is also a good damage build.

And what level range are you talking about these characters, cause a chance sac in tot room with only 3 chars? That doesn't sound good... unless the sac's just going to sit there and wait for tot to die since everyone else will be dead long before (in my experience). Otherwise he'll just become a tofu, and nobody likes those. Except Osas.

Anywho, I say if you want to keep your characters down, osa is always a good idea. Slower fighting, semi-annoying AI sometimes, but summons make the fight seem like your team is bigger than it really is. I'd say probably int osa, good damage, can heal so eni doesn't have to be so supportive, also can revive, which is helpful as with only 3 people if something f's up, you're... f'd >_> XD. Once it gets into SO pieces it can unsummon extra good with whip. So that could save your team some trouble, as it lacks AOE completely aside from when using the panda. And with no AOE, it just seems so wasteful to attack summons without also getting others.

in my defense i did say i was trying to get the main chars i needed when grouping with other people for certain dungeons ^^

as for the multi chars on same account, im not willing to pay for more then 3 accounts atm.

i tried to set it up, to where i can get 1 good dmg dealer on each acc, and then 1 support char on each acc ( wanted 2 dmg dealers on acc 2 ). enu and panda are on the same account, because when im soloing small dungeons, i figured out which teams i wanted, and it ended up working out that way, + enu is mainly for when i join someone elses dungeon run, same with cra, because the sram/eni/panda will beable to get the dungeons i will solo done the fastest while still having survivability on ones that are a little bit harder.

When im joining other dungeon runs, i dont want 3 support chars, which is why my main 4 support chars ( eni/cra, panda/enu ) are on 2 accs, while i wanted 2 different element dmg dealers on acc 2 so i can choose either depending on the dungeon. I was also thinking that when i join other peoples groups, ill have either a eni for support, or a cra for dmg/support, as well as having either my wis enu for support, or str panda for dmg/support. In theory i could put panda in replace of the cra on acc 1 so i can have panda/enu, but at that point i rather just make/gear another panda on acc 1. Main reason behind that, is because the main dungeons i will run is legendary crackler + gourlo, and with the list i put up i need agi/str sram + panda for both, while transfering between agi cra for crackler and int eni for gourlo, so i needed them to both be on the same acc. + usually, if they dont need help from my panda, i can switch it to the enu for drops ( if im joining others )

and yes, i do understand that having multiple chars on same acc is extremely stupid compared to having more then 3 accs, just dont want more then 3 accs, for now atleast, maybe when i get bored of the dungeons i spam, and want more accs to solo higher dungeons

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and yes, i do understand that having multiple chars on same acc is extremely stupid compared to having more then 3 accs, just dont want more then 3 accs, for now atleast, maybe when i get bored of the dungeons i spam, and want more accs to solo higher dungeons

Lol its not stupid, just seems like a pain having to level them all when you can't just group them all at once. I love all my characters thats why I can't just "oh screw you cra, im taking out the enu!" so I must do it separate.

Anywho, since when does cra count as support character? Unless you're tossing on Targ Belt and +AP gear only, but if not its a pretty good damage dealer, in your case agility. I wouldn't count it as support.

If you're doing dungeon runs... you'll want your enu there... no matter what it is. Enu is on its own level of dungeon running because its something that no one else can do, with chest. I mean sure no one can throw like a panda, but there are minor work arounds or other tactics... no other tactics to get a summon that gives a ton more of drops. I'd say enu is a must in any dungeon runner's roster... as in everytime. Especially if you're wanting to run crackler. Anyway I guess thats a no on the osa? If you want another damage dealer, pick your favorite kind of iop. They're all good, all fun, and all have some interesting spells. Of course strength is probably the most popular due to wrath and SoI's range. Agi and Int lack range, unless you get the piece of the reckless set that gives boostable range to SoJ, then I guess you could have some range but who does that? :)

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What I Have

Acct1: Str sadi (19x)

Acct2: Agi cra (19x)

Acct3: Cha Enu (17x)

Acct4: Int osa (18x)

Acct5: Int Eni (17x)

What I Want

Number of New Accts: 3

Goal: A frigost dungeon farmer group

Leaning Toward: Panda is a definite but unsure of build, and open to suggestions for the other 2

Extra Comments: Can be as exotic or casual as you like, will never chop and change the current team I already have, but if you like you can suggest alternate builds for the classes I own, to make my team more functional with my extra 3.

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Lol its not stupid, just seems like a pain having to level them all when you can't just group them all at once. I love all my characters thats why I can't just "oh screw you cra, im taking out the enu!" so I must do it separate.

Anywho, since when does cra count as support character? Unless you're tossing on Targ Belt and +AP gear only, but if not its a pretty good damage dealer, in your case agility. I wouldn't count it as support.

If you're doing dungeon runs... you'll want your enu there... no matter what it is. Enu is on its own level of dungeon running because its something that no one else can do, with chest. I mean sure no one can throw like a panda, but there are minor work arounds or other tactics... no other tactics to get a summon that gives a ton more of drops. I'd say enu is a must in any dungeon runner's roster... as in everytime. Especially if you're wanting to run crackler. Anyway I guess thats a no on the osa? If you want another damage dealer, pick your favorite kind of iop. They're all good, all fun, and all have some interesting spells. Of course strength is probably the most popular due to wrath and SoI's range. Agi and Int lack range, unless you get the piece of the reckless set that gives boostable range to SoJ, then I guess you could have some range but who does that? :)

don't get me wrong, i do understand what your saying, and completely agree. the panda is more for speed over the enu when running crackler. and it is gonna be a huge pain lvling them all, and each one will have roughly the same amount of runs for crackler dungeon mainly cause thats how ill lvl them up til 15x

i consider cra support cause the main dungeon im wanting to run is tynril, in which case ill prolly try to get a eni to join me and then my cra is mainly support. though cra's have extremely nice dmg, i consider them more support mainly because they can help the board control usually more then any other char if needed at the time.

as for the osa, i honestly hate em, im extremely picky when it comes to dmg, or support, and personally i think the only use for a osa in dungeon is revive + some heals/buffs, i hate waiting on the summons to do their turn for less dmg then i could do with a stronger char. as for the iop, i was considering it strongly, mainly int, and thats just because ive had a int iop before, and i know how insane they can get their dmg, i think i was at 500+ per hit at 160 with power + compulsion.

since its on a new server, i do got to do alot of dungeons to farm money, and its gonna be awhile before i can get the money to complete their main sets, as for now i dont want more then 3 accs, but by then ill prolly move on to 4 or 5. i guess the main reason why i dont want more then 3 accs atm, is cause i dont wanna have to farm all their gear and scrollings at one time. i rather get my 3 main chars upgraded while slowing getting the others ones where i want them ( scrolling being last on them ), by the time i can scroll em, i wouldnt mind releveling one on a new acc because ill have my 3 mains chars to run them through crackler.

ill relook into the osa, with determination of bringing it up multiple times, im assuming i might be overlooking something ( i think the main reason i hate em, is because they fuck me up in pvp, but not in a powerful way, but more of a stalled slow game - the most annoying way to lose, slow and stalled.... same with wis xelors ) xD

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Theoretical Team of 4. Currently thinking of an Eni + Cra as the core, then either a Iop + Panda or two Iops. Eni will be heals, Cra will start off with a funky damage/leach build until it hits 80/90 then it will be Slow Down/Explosive spam, the first Iop will be a leecher Celestial spammer. For the last slot i can't decide between a str Iop or a Str panda so any insight that would expedite my decision would be greatly appreciated.

Also when would a str panda be better off spamming vulns than attacking.

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Theoretical Team of 4. Currently thinking of an Eni + Cra as the core, then either a Iop + Panda or two Iops. Eni will be heals, Cra will start off with a funky damage/leach build until it hits 80/90 then it will be Slow Down/Explosive spam, the first Iop will be a leecher Celestial spammer. For the last slot i can't decide between a str Iop or a Str panda so any insight that would expedite my decision would be greatly appreciated.

Strength iop - Non linear AOE

Strength Panda - Map Manipulation/vulns

Both are good, since you already have an iop panda may be nice, but strength iop is pretty sexy too. Just depends how much you really want those vulns/map manipulation, if you don't care about those then screw it.

Also when would a str panda be better off spamming vulns than attacking.

When most of the team does that element of damage or when its own element has horrible resistance. For instance:

Boss X - 90% Earth Res, 20% Fire Res

Team - Int Cra, Int Sac, Str Panda, Agi Xelor, Int Eni

Spamming fire vulns (if leveled) would turn that into a frenzy. However if its a small team and panda is only of the element you're vulning, skip vulns.

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Lol its not stupid, just seems like a pain having to level them all when you can't just group them all at once. I love all my characters thats why I can't just "oh screw you cra, im taking out the enu!" so I must do it separate.

Honestly I'm going to have to fully agree with Vcent here. Nowadays with the Ogrines system it is an extreme waste to ever use more than one character per account, and I would advise against it at all costs.

You can always just let one account expire and start subbing another... if you sub weekly with Ogrines it's as easy as changing your underwear. And this way you'll always be able to build whatever team you want later on, without having to constantly choose which characters to take, like picking which children are your favorite.

Sooner or later you'll be able to afford to sub a nearly indefinite number of accounts purely off Ogrines, even if you're only using one account at a time, so there's absolutely no reason to ever split up your accounts between characters.

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What I Have

Acct1: 19x Cha Enu

Acct2: 19x Heal-bot Eni

Acct3: 19x Agi Sac

Acct4: 18x Str/vuln monkey panda

What I Want

Number of New Accts: 4?

Goal: My goal is to be able to easily complete future end game content, third ep content for example.

Leaning Toward: Panda/eni/enu/cra

Extra Comments. I chose those 4 based on more vulns/heals/drops/map manipulation and mp rape.

If I were you I would add Str/vuln panda, Cra of whatever build you like most likely str or int, Str iop, Int eni. The reason I like adding an iop to your team is because with 2 pandas and wrath its a simple strategy that can be in a life saver once you learn to time it properly on almost all frigost dungeons. Personally I am a fan of having all elements covered (which you will) but I have always liked stacking most of the other characters in one element to make panda vulns as usefull as they can possibly be.

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