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Posted 01 February 2012 - 01:58 PM

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Something about how gift points aren't really necessary, and will be removed. Gifts will be given with your subscription just like ordinary payments. The gift space will be left open for a while for you to use up your gift points in.
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Posted 01 February 2012 - 02:27 PM

so as i am to understand, people who buy ogrines also get the pets now also?


edit: purchased with kk that is

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 02:32 PM

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As of February 22, Gift Points disappear . We remove an unnecessary step in between you and your gift subscription: you receive directly the gift of your choice by subscribing , as is the case with other means of payment.


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Do not worry! Even if we stop the distribution of gift items, gift space will remain open at the several months, to give you time to spend your last PC . The four familiar exclusive space will also present special offer until you close it. Enjoy!

Gift Points were introduced to support Ogrines when fired. Today, Ogrines entered the habits of our players (subscription services, Kama Exchange ...) and have gained enough maturity to adopt the same function as the means of payment.

We will publish next week an article on our Devblog to explain all this in detail!


From that what i understand:

You can't stack points with "lowtime subs" anymore to get "high subtime items".
I.e. :to get Stings and Dragoons you have to sub for a long period of time.

...got that right?

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 03:30 PM

View Postwinged-one, on 01 February 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

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From that what i understand:

You can't stack points with "lowtime subs" anymore to get "high subtime items".
I.e. :to get Stings and Dragoons you have to sub for a long period of time.

...got that right?


But the point is, will you get those gifts with ogrines, or only with regular subscription? Because it sounds like there wiill no longer be any gifts with ogrines.
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Posted 01 February 2012 - 03:45 PM

FFS... I was trying to save up slowly for a livitnem hat, but apparently this system made to much sense to survive <<
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Posted 01 February 2012 - 04:24 PM

You should only get qualifying sub gifts when you buy with $ imo. Plus it would be ridiculously expensive kamawise to get one of the year pets via trading kamas for ogrines.
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Posted 01 February 2012 - 04:50 PM

does it not just mean that you will no longer get points for ogrines, e.g 13000 will = around....
well 13000 is 18 weeks of sub so i have no idea if they will give you a 3 months pet for the price of nearly 5 momths months sub or if they will remove such options....

that said a 42000 sub is like 60ish weeks so whatwill they do there? give you a pink dragoon and 2 gobtubbys?!

i cant see why they would remove this system, i really cant....

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 05:06 PM

You will get gifts when you use ogrines to subscribe, the same way as when you use money to subscribe. You will no longer get gift points when buying ogrines.
Currently, you get no gifts when you use ogrines to subscribe, but you get gift points when buying ogrines.
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Posted 01 February 2012 - 05:31 PM

View PostPkuboat, on 01 February 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

You should only get qualifying sub gifts when you buy with $ imo. Plus it would be ridiculously expensive kamawise to get one of the year pets via trading kamas for ogrines.


But you only get gift points when you buy ogrines with money

View PostHappida, on 01 February 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

You will get gifts when you use ogrines to subscribe, the same way as when you use money to subscribe. You will no longer get gift points when buying ogrines.
Currently, you get no gifts when you use ogrines to subscribe, but you get gift points when buying ogrines.


That sucks cause I buy 47k ogrines at once, just like another player would to buy 1 year of p2p, but I divide them between 8 accounts. Will spend a lot of money and not get the rewards ):
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Posted 01 February 2012 - 06:51 PM

You know... It might be best to just wait for the official translation, because everyone in this thread is saying something completely different and I'm extremely confused now .-.
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Posted 01 February 2012 - 07:53 PM

I'm predicting that Ogrines might get more expensive to buy from other players, Kama-wise now... I mean, before, someone who bought 47000 Ogrines would not only get to sell them for ~12mk, but also get like 50% more by buying a couple of expensive gifts. Now they're not going to be able to get that gift, so essentially the amount of Kamas they get per Ogrine will decrease.

This is a terrible idea IMO; people who buy Ogrines are paying real money for them, so they should get some extra reward, as opposed to the rich, already-established players who can afford to sub their full teams for months at a time.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 02:41 AM

Well, I'm not sure if it's much clearer. ^_^

http://www.dofus.com...into-retirement

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As of February 22, 2012, Gift Points will disappear. We're removing this unnecessary step between you and your subscription gift. Now, you will directly receive the gift of your choice when subscribing with Ogrines, as is the case with other payment options.

But don't worry! Even though we will no longer distribute gift points for Ogrine purchases, the Gift Section will remain open for several more months to give you time to spend your remaining GP. The four pets exclusive to the Gift Section will also have a special price reduction until the section closes. Enjoy!

Gift Points were introduced to support Ogrines when they were launched. Today, using Ogrines has become routine for players (for subscription, Dofus services, Kama exchange) and Ogrines have grown enough to adopt the same functionality as the other payment options. So you will receive your choice of our "classic" subscription rewards whenever you subscribe from now on.

Next week, we will publish an article on the Devblog to explain all this in detail!


Though, it says "whenever you subscribe". So it sounds like it's in fact the the Kama buyers losing out on some.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 09:45 AM

So yeah, Ill buy 47k ogrines and get a fucking bunch of gobtubbies...
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:45 AM

So basically, this is retarded. I thought the whole point of gift points was to give people who can't buy massive amounts of ogrines (all at once) a chance to buy their small amount of ogrines and eventually save up points to get bigger gifts. Now no one'll get anything good unless they spend all the ogrines on a single character.

The other stupid thing is... You have to waste all your subtime at once! If you buy 47k ogrines and then only spend 1 week of them at a time, you won't get a dragoone that way. They're basically just trying to strip out ogrines and make people need them more as they'll be wasting more sub time if they want a good gift.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:54 AM

they are removing the gifts from who give money to ankama, to who buy ogrines with they own gameMoney (kamas) receive the gifts.

OR

if they gonna give the gift to who buy the amount of ogrines, this will be fucking retarded, because a example, 13mil ogrines is like 4 months and another week, what they gonna give to that people?
maybe they gonna change the amount of ogrines you can buy, like 700/3.000/180.000...

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:35 PM

Well, Izmar clarified it in the official topic. The subscription gift is given for subbing with the Ogrines, no matter if you bought them for cash or for kamas.

I think the part in which the subscriber gets the gift and not the kama buyer is a nice step.
But as I said in the OF topic, in the future it would be nice if all forms of subscription got a way to save up their "loyalty points" in some form. The majority of bonus programs works in such a way, you get points depending on how much you spend and you collect said points for what you want from their selection of gifts.
I'm not advocating to keep GP in the current form, but a similar system that's actually tied to every time you sub an account would be superb.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:52 PM

View PostAla, on 02 February 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

Well, Izmar clarified it in the official topic. The subscription gift is given for subbing with the Ogrines, no matter if you bought them for cash or for kamas.

I think the part in which the subscriber gets the gift and not the kama buyer is a nice step.
But as I said in the OF topic, in the future it would be nice if all forms of subscription got a way to save up their "loyalty points" in some form. The majority of bonus programs works in such a way, you get points depending on how much you spend and you collect said points for what you want from their selection of gifts.
I'm not advocating to keep GP in the current form, but a similar system that's actually tied to every time you sub an account would be superb.


Yep, its just a great system, subbing gives you points you can save to spend on something later, why do they have to change it COMPLETELY?
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:07 PM

I think the overall goal is to promote longer subscriptions. Rather then having people subscribing just when they feel like playing. Going on vacation for 2 weeks? no worries I just won't sub my 8 chas for those 2 weeks. That equals about 25$ us to ankama. If im subbed a year in advance I can't sub on a whim.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:23 PM

View PostAnsatsu, on 02 February 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

I think the overall goal is to promote longer subscriptions. Rather then having people subscribing just when they feel like playing. Going on vacation for 2 weeks? no worries I just won't sub my 8 chas for those 2 weeks. That equals about 25$ us to ankama. If im subbed a year in advance I can't sub on a whim.


Its one of those things that we understand, but its just bad ):
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:29 PM

When will all this happen?

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