[happyman]

Nothing to big or long, at least for now.
The Beta Test server has been updated and all characters were imported.
This update mainly concerns the Kolossium system.

Here is the list of changes:

The Kolossium's experience rewards now also depend on a character's rating and not only on their level. This change encourages players to try to reach their real rating and penalizes those who try to artificially reduce their rating. The character level will determine the maximum value of experience one can win and the rating determines how much will be gained in a specific fight.
The system now takes the rate of abnormal wins and losses (too far from a 50% chance) into account, in order to adjust a character's rating towards a more consistent value more rapidly.
A decrease in rating after a win is no longer possible.
The formation of teams is improved. When two teams of three characters are selected for a fight, the system will check other combinations of the characters to try and compose two teams which are more balanced.
All ratings of characters are reset in order to evaluate these changes more easily.
A character's health points can no longer exceed its maximum health (in the event of an attack causing more unhealable health points loss than actual damage dealt).
The initiative and health points are properly updated during the preparation phase of a fight.


http://forum.dofus.c...ate-beta-server

This post has been edited by happyman: 19 January 2012 - 09:48 AM

[-Amos-]

interesting o:

[evilmind]

i dont understand the first two points... like at all

[Xca]

evilmind, on 19 January 2012 - 07:28 AM, said:

i dont understand the first two points... like at all

I think the first is saying that higher rating means higher exp along with higher level to stop epic levels lowering their own rating to get easy exp. I'm as lost as you on the second one though

[Aether]

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The decrease in rating points for a win is possible.

You win but you lose!

[Pkuboat]

That already happens anyway. We have a char that loses rating every fight no matter what.

[Chris Eggroll]

Yeah, almost every kolo fight for a long time i lose rank, maybe they are changing that? I wish I could translate this translation into actual English

[winged-one]

i dont understand why they put that at beta...
in honesty, who is interested to go beta server and test such changes?

...weird!

[evilmind]

Xca, on 19 January 2012 - 07:51 AM, said:

I think the first is saying that higher rating means higher exp along with higher level to stop epic levels lowering their own rating to get easy exp. I'm as lost as you on the second one though

hmm, but my char, fighting random with low rank, already gets only high rank exomage preset groups
so the change is, that if i manage to win such fight anyway, i'll now get even less exp? thats... interesting :-)

This post has been edited by evilmind: 19 January 2012 - 08:30 AM

[Izmar]

Aether, on 19 January 2012 - 08:00 AM, said:

You win but you lose!

This is why Google translate is dangerous. The original French says "La baisse de points de cote en cas de victoire n'est plus possible."

That little "n'est" means that it's no longer possible.

English translation is up here: Kolossium Update

[Persona]

Any idea as to when this will be implemented? :3

[Magics]

Izmar, on 19 January 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:

This is why Google translate is dangerous. The original French says "La baisse de points de cote en cas de victoire n'est plus possible."

That little "n'est" means that it's no longer possible.

English translation is up here: Kolossium Update

awesome thanks for clearing that little one up for us, i never understood the whole concept of losing rating for winning a fight in a random system that is beyond our control and is deemed unfair by the very same system that made it....

[Havikko]

I am testing this new rating thing right now but it needs more people to log i think. Finding a fight takes awfully long.
I hope they fix all the Kolossium issues we have with it right now so it can be fun and popular again.


And my new guildleader is merciless

[17:23] [Izmar] : Bye bye, then!
[17:24] [Izmar] casts Slaughter.
[17:24] [Agu]Amfk:-2160 HP.
[17:24] Major Arachnee:-379 HP.
[17:24] [Hyr]Sundry:-2888 HP.
[17:24] [Agu]Mustanchief:-2587 HP.
[17:24] [Izmar]:-75 HP.
[17:24] [Ama]Arra-xel:-2438 HP.
[17:24] [Ama]Fleche-cingla:-1090 HP.
[17:24] [Ros]Tolonen:-3493 HP.
[17:24] [Agu]Amfk:-184 BP
[17:24] [Hyr]Sundry:-569 BP
[17:24] [Agu]Amfk is dead.
[17:24] Major Arachnee is dead.
[17:24] [Hyr]Sundry is dead.
[17:24] Crackler is dead.
[17:24] [Agu]Mustanchief is dead.
[17:24] [Ama]Arra-xel is dead.
[17:24] [Ama]Fleche-cingla is dead.
[17:24] [Ros]Tolonen is dead.
[17:24] Major Arachnee reduces the damage by 165.
[17:24] [Ama]Arra-xel reflects 86 damage.
[17:24] The fight has ended.

(Sorry about this offtop i couldn't ressist )

[happyman]

Izmar, on 19 January 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:

This is why Google translate is dangerous. The original French says "La baisse de points de cote en cas de victoire n'est plus possible."

That little "n'est" means that it's no longer possible.

It really is, i had to double check that 'change' myself and it said that "n'est" translates both to "is" and "not", so confusing. Anyway first post updated.

Izmar, am i right to assume that second last change also affects fights outside kolo? or is it some kolo only bug?

This post has been edited by happyman: 19 January 2012 - 10:00 AM

[Ala]

happyman, on 19 January 2012 - 09:56 AM, said:

It really is, i had to double check that 'change' myself and it said that "n'est" translates both to "is" and "not", so confusing. Anyway first post updated.

Izmar, am i right to assume that second last change always affects fights outside kolo? or is it some kolo only bug?

Well, French uses this "ne [verb] something" construct a lot. It's kinda important what comes after the verb. The ones which often appear in Dofus changelogs are:
ne [verb] pas = not
ne [verb] plus = no longer
ne [verb] que = only/just
(In case it starts with a vowel, like est = is, then "ne" is glued to the verb as "n'".)

Hope this helps with future confusion.


And, I believe both the last changes concern all fights, because they were also broken in all fights. I will check quickly on the Beta.

edit: No, the thing adressed by the last change is still broken. The second-last one is also still broken. Zzzz.

This post has been edited by Ala: 19 January 2012 - 10:23 AM

[Xca]

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A character's health points can no longer exceed its maximum health (in the event of an attack causing more unhealable health points loss than actual damage dealt).

Can anyone explain this to me please? What has been happening that needs changing?

[Pkuboat]

Yeah if permanent health loss is capped at 50% hows this even possible?

[Jaelia]

Permanent health loss is definitely not capped at 50%, at least in pvm. In a fuji soul yesterday my sac was at 940/898hp, so I guess they're fixing that.

[Ala]

If you have Feca armours, Preventing Word or any other damage reduction from spells then you get permanent damage as if you didn't have those spells on.

1000/1000 HP, you have Glowing armour, get leeked for 100 damage. Armour reduces all 100, but you lose the 10% permanent of the 100 anyway (or more if you have permanent damage debuffs).
Your HP should be 990/990 after that, but at the moment it's 1000/990.

[Kiba]

winged-one, on 19 January 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:

i dont understand why they put that at beta...
in honesty, who is interested to go beta server and test such changes?

...weird!

Well now you're not allowed to complain when this goes live and there's a glitch!!!